Friday, July 12, 2019
Gender in the Wild
In our discussion, we remarked that throughout the book, Krakauer refers only to male adventurers. Why do you suppose this is? Is he guilty of gender bias? Or are women less likely to go on these kinds of odysseys? In other words, are women more likely to choose other ways to "find themselves" and test themselves? RESPOND to this question once and then REPLY to two of your classmates.
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I do believe he is guilty of gender bias, there are plenty of women adventurers who are also as compelled to nature as the men that he mentioned in the book. I believe he just mentioned male adventurers because he could relate them to Chris; whereas if he had written about a women it wouldn't have been the same because probably her journey and her physical abilities would differ from his. I believe that women are equally likely to go on adventures because it is something that all human beings want: to discover themselves and figure life out.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you because woman are equality likely to go on adventures and have the right to discover themselves in any way they feel like doing it.
DeleteI agree with you that women's physical quality is not as strong as men's, so I think women will take risks in other ways!
Deletei agree that women have the same abilities as men and that they are just capable of doing whatever they want, but i dont think Krakauer wanted to say that women weren't capable of these types of adventures.
DeleteI completely agree with you, women are as capable of anything as men. Also, it is not only men that want to discover life's purpose, we do too!
DeleteI think that Krakauer refers only to male adventures thanks to the year it was written because at that time women were consider much inferior and society had a defined stereotype about them. For example, women were suppose to stay at home at take care of children and it was really weird or it wasn't normal that a women lived adventures or odysseys as Krakauer described in the book. In addition, i do believe he is guilty of gender bias because he just mentioned male adventures because Chris was a male and it was easier to relate it with him. Also, i think that at that time it wasn't likely for woman to make those kind of adventures or odysseys because they were scared of society and they just stayed quiet and deal with society, but know i think that woman liberation have ended that fear of society and woman are really doing what they heart tells them that is why it is more likely to find woman adventures and odysseys in the actuality. Finally i think that woman have the right to find themselves and show that they are equal and strong as the other gender and that it is good to go on adventures and to not have limits to achieve their dreams.
ReplyDeleteI couldn't agree more with you, i believe women deserve to be recognized as the good adventurers they are!And i like the part in which you said that the author was kind of a victim of the society in which he lived because at that time women were considered inferior. Thankfully times are changing ;)
DeleteRight! At that time, women's status was not as high as men's, so it may limit many ideas of contemporary women.
DeleteI agree that the author is biased towards gender risk taking. Considering the age when the author wrote this book, the status of female was not as high as that of male, and more people thought that women were more suitable to take care of children or families at home than to take risks to pursue themselves.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, women's physical strength is not as strong as men's, so I think women might go to other ways like traveling some things like that instead of venturing into the wild.
i agree about how the time has a really important role in this kind of question because it is true that back then women had specific roles in society.
DeleteOr maybe this idea was just inflicted on them by society and they could reach as much strenght as men can. On the other hand, i completely agree with your analisis of the time the book was written and its relation with woman status.
DeleteI dont think Krakauer is responsible for gender bias and i dont he was trying to say men where the only ones who had that type of adventures. i think he was just trying to tell a story that captive his attention, and when he started comparing Chris odessey with others i just think he used men because it make it more similar to Chris life, but not because he though women weren't able to do something like that.
ReplyDeleteI understand your point, however I sustain the fact that the author was enrolled in society´s beliefs because of his lack of mention for females.
DeleteI get you, but it would have been very interesting to see more female representation. For instance a female adventurer
DeleteYour opinion is interesting for me.
DeleteHowever, I feel this book is more focused on his father's achievement tha his mother's. What do you think for this problem? It is caused because the author is a man isn't it?
I totally agree with you, Krakauer is not responsible of gender bias, he was just trying to explain his idea with adventurous men, just as he could have explained with adventurous women. :)
DeleteKrakauer clearly portrays in a greater way male subjects, he does mention female figures, but in a superficial unmagnifying kind of way. Because of the year the book was published, the gender gap was amazingly high. This last factor can be atributed to the fact the author uses men´s adventures only to keep the reader interested. It wouldn´t have been as popular as it was if Krakauer r4efered to women more than to men. Of course, women are less likely to go into odysseys, but this isn´t because of their capability to do things but because society has inflicted on them the idea of being phisically inferior and has established stereotypes about the types of activities a men and a woman can or can´t do. Unfortunately, this stigmas have prehold and it seems almost impossible to erase them. Consequently, going an auto-discovery seems pretty different for men and women, everyone has a different journey in life, but because of imposed ideas and beliefs from society women seem more likely to have an small space to search for answers. Being now aware of this, is Krakauer guilty of gender bias? In a way he is. Not being directly despective to woman does not mean this feeling is not hidden. Portraying only men lifes, avoiding intimacy and mentioning in detail the protagonist relashionships with male characters and not females seem like great examples of his role.
ReplyDeleteI also think the gender gap was definitely existed, so I strongly agree with you.
DeleteI totally agree with you! i think that Krakauer used man adventures to keep the reader interested and i think that he could perfectly compare Chris with a women's adventure. I also think that women should be able and capable of discovering themselves in whichever way they want to and they should feel free to do it and no care about the rules imposed by society.
DeleteIn my opinion, the author is clearly gender biased. Women haven't had an important role in the book, even though they are strongly related to the protagonist; for instance the mom or the little sister. In addition, all the adventurers that are compared to Chris are men, this implies that women are not risk takers or aren't that important to mention. Maybe it was because of the moment Krakauer wrote the book, women didn't have a high value in society, however I think it would have been possible to include a little bit more female representation
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, but I think the value of women is not high in the society that is true. However, the book must have ay least one adventure of woman.
DeleteAs far as I understand, this book is based on a true story and this means that the author tries to give a high level of reality to his story. So if the author does not mention a woman with a leading role is not because he wanted not to include women, it is just because women were not so not relevant in Chris's odyssey. :)
DeleteI also think that the author is gender biased. However, I consider that the number of people who do Odyssey of women is fewer than men's that because I don't have any idea in the U.S. ,but in Japan, the number of missing people of women is actually fewer than men's. As the reason why the number of women is fewer, I think it's because women's responsibility of society is more little than men. The equality of sex is getting better today, but we have not solved the problem and the parents' expectations are a little bit different. Thus, I think women is not easily likely to escape their lives and do odyssey.
ReplyDeleteIt is true, now in Japan, the gender situationis getting better and better. However, when Chris lived, I think attitude toward gender was really different from now.
DeleteI feel we should know other countries' gender situation
and past situation to solve recent gender problem.
We never repeat the same mistakes such as persucution of women.
I think he is guilty of gender bias. In my case, I am a woman and I always feel that the right of women is less than men in my daily life, so I think it is gender bias, but if men read this book, they might think it is not gebder bias. It is because, men is always stronger than women in terms of phphysics and also state in social. I suppose it is a real gender problem.
ReplyDeleteEveryone has a right to control their life, so women can go to odyssey to find themselves. However many some people think it is not good for women. In order to change this situstionm, we, women speak up and insist this right.
I couldn't agree more with you! it is absolutely necessary for us to speak up and demand our rights because women have the same capacity and strength as men.
DeleteAfter having discussed a similar question in class and having known the point of view of the teacher, I disagree with her when she says that the author puts everything with a purpose. I believe that writers do not necessarily always have a purpose to every detail they include in their works. Based on my previous point of view, I think that Krakauer has no intention of leaving women aside, but only found these male characters who described their idea better. I want to make clear that Krakauer is not guilty of gender bias. I also believe that women have the same opportunities to go on an odyssey as men. And I think the ways in which men and women "meet" has nothing to do with gender but with their tastes, it's not like women have a way of "meeting" and men a different way of "meet", after all, we are all human.
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